Al-Quraishi wrote:
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Well that's the thing isn't it, Hajj and cicumbabulation are in the Qur'an so they're gonna have a tough time trying to majic it away!
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that's the bloke who wrote 1 of the lengthiest (and most pathetic) jokes u ll ever read anywhere..."arab conspiracy against islam" is what it went under....innit?
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## i remember this forum i used to be at....the peepz there were rippin' off his jokes and calling it a "god-alone" understanding...there was this guy who had started a thread about whether islam is a "religion", and i asked him to define religion and somehow he never got past that...beat that! :-S
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Al-Quraishi wrote:
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Salam,
Done all that, but I'm still not sure what you're trying to get at, are you saying that the Hajj and Kaba are polytheistic innovations? Please be clearer instead of just posting a weblink.
Like I said originally, how do people who claim this explain the obvious verses in the Qur'an that explain them?
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Al-Quraishi wrote:
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This pussyfooting around the issue of Religion/Way of life is rediculous, the argument is negligible regardless as it's clear a good Muslim's life is guided by Islam.
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It's also a shame that the people who share these views almost always have prejudiced views towards Arabs.
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Perhaps you forgot that that's how and where Islam started....in the Arab world and it were the Arabs from all ethnic backgrounds that desecrated and disbelieved in Muhammad and went rampaging about their old idolworshipping pagan ways that we witness till today. No wonder the Quran professes that the majority of people have disbelieved and lost interest in its REAL message for whatever reasons, hence they refuse to or simly cannot understand.
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Perhaps you forgot that that's how and where Islam started
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in the Arab world and it were the Arabs from all ethnic backgrounds that desecrated and disbelieved in Muhammad and went rampaging about their old idolworshipping pagan ways
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al-quraishi wrote:
Salam bro, yes I noticed that also and as a result I have little respect for such an individual because he's either:
1. He is ignorant of Arabic and the correct meaning therefore in light of his own ignorance he feels he can convince others and guide them with his articles even though he can't read the Qur'an.
2. He isn't ignorant and understands the Arabic word therefore he's purposefully mistranslated it to decieve others and attack an entire race/ethnicity of people.
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You hit the nail on the head with that one, notice on the website it has "ISLAM IS NOT A RELIGION" in a big scrolling marquee across the top.
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This pussyfooting around the issue of Religion/Way of life is rediculous, the argument is negligible regardless as it's clear a good Muslim's life is guided by Islam. It's also a shame that the people who share these views almost always have prejudiced views towards Arabs.
Many (or is it most?) Christians and Jews/Zionists are prejudiced toward the people of the Middle East i.e. the cultural, racial, ethnic, liguistic etc etc inheritors of their own supposed Prophets. The sad thing is that Muslims know that Arabs are the cultural inheritors of the prophets esp. Muhammad and this resentment has grown. If Muhammad was around here today would they too despise him becuase he speaks and dresses like an Arab?
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Just some food for thought for all those vehement-Western/'Progressive' Muslims out there.
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jungleboy wrote:
BIG difference between Religion and Way of Life, if only you knew.
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Al-Quraishi wrote:
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Yes Jungleboy, can you not argue for yourself instead of sending links to someone else's website?
Or are you Aidid Safar in disguise???
If you have a point then please state, otherwise don't quote my stuff in a refuting manner when you have nothing to refute it with.
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I see that both you and "The" (dah!) revere and worship stone structures
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JungleBoy wrote:
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I see that both you and "The" (dah!) revere and worship stone structures, just because you understand the meanings of Quranic injuctions better than others as such regarless of idols and idolworshipping being condemned. Nice, LOL!!!
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jungleboy wrote:
I see that both you and "The" (dah!) revere and worship stone structures, just because you understand the meanings of Quranic injuctions better than others as such regarless of idols and idolworshipping being condemned. Nice, LOL!!!
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al-quraishi wrote:
I'm not sure about you but neither myself or The have a problem with you, we were talking and then you decided to quote something I said and placed a link.
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life wrote:
JUNGLEBOY IS SUSPENDED FOR 30 DAYS
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# whenever he returns, and with whatever id or as guest, i wonder if he ll share the big difference with us! (-:
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