I would love for any Muslim here who can translate Arabic into English better than Yusuf Ali.
Surah 9:5 - "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful."
So the Quran instructs you to kill people unless they repent and believe as you do? Sounds quite Catholic to me, and I don't agree with it. Please translate this better if something is wrong.
Surah 9:14 - "Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers."
Fight, fight, fight!
Surah 9:29 - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
Fight, fight, fight!
Understand again, I know that most Muslims are not violent, radical extremists, most want peace, but only because they don't follow Surah 9 of the Quran.
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Sun 11 Nov, 2007 10:59 am
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Rigel wrote:
Someone from facebook asks;
I would love for any Muslim here who can translate Arabic into English better than Yusuf Ali.
Surah 9:5 - "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful."
So the Quran instructs you to kill people unless they repent and believe as you do? Sounds quite Catholic to me, and I don't agree with it. Please translate this better if something is wrong.
Surah 9:14 - "Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers."
Fight, fight, fight!
Surah 9:29 - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
Fight, fight, fight!
Understand again, I know that most Muslims are not violent, radical extremists, most want peace, but only because they don't follow Surah 9 of the Quran.
Hi Rigel,
Please tell the friend from Facebook that there is a whole section of verses before 9:28 and after reading all the verses, your friend will know why the order to fight the pagans of Mecca was given.
I will write later when I have more time.
Please stay tuned. Thanks.
BMZ
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Sun 11 Nov, 2007 12:20 pm
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Hello Bmz,
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Please tell the friend from Facebook that there is a whole section of verses before 9:28 and after reading all the verses, your friend will know why the order to fight the pagans of Mecca was given.
He is not my friend, dont even know him. Another FFI type freak. To ask from the air few particular verses, obviously he is holding to bark in reply.
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I will write later when I have more time.
Please dont, these type of posts should only be counter questioned, like you already did. This is worst type of spamming I guess. Because it steals your time, subjects and patients for the spammer, to whom it does not matter. Along with himself he wants to waste your time too. Be their guest
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Please stay tuned. Thanks.
Your welcome, always tuned
salam!
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Mon 12 Nov, 2007 12:10 pm
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Rigel wrote:
Hello Bmz,
Quote:
Please tell the friend from Facebook that there is a whole section of verses before 9:28 and after reading all the verses, your friend will know why the order to fight the pagans of Mecca was given.
He is not my friend, dont even know him. Another FFI type freak. To ask from the air few particular verses, obviously he is holding to bark in reply.
Quote:
I will write later when I have more time.
Please dont, these type of posts should only be counter questioned, like you already did. This is worst type of spamming I guess. Because it steals your time, subjects and patients for the spammer, to whom it does not matter. Along with himself he wants to waste your time too. Be their guest
Quote:
Please stay tuned. Thanks.
Your welcome, always tuned
salam!
Hello Rigel,
Thank you very much for saving my time. If FFI let some knowledgeable Muslims go on exchanging, without banning them, a lot can be clarified.
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